Nearly 40 Albums Deleted. Why?

"No content involving u******e persons, a****ls, ****, i****t, v******e, blood, shitting, pissing, vomit and other disgusting things. No drunk, d**gged, passed out or sleeping persons!"

This is the relevant information from the gallery/album upload screen when I have uploaded an album. This details mostly things that are i*****l but also covers some things in bad taste like blood, shit, and piss. None of my uploads involve any of that from what I know, though there may be a moment or two where when piss happens, perhaps on accident. Of course there's squirting in some of my uploads, which some would argue is piss, but whatever.

The stuff that may be relevant to my uploads is the "u******e persons" and "i****t." I've never posted anything that included u******e persons. Persons = people. I've also never posted anything that included i****t. Fake i****t for fantasy, sure. i****t is a common theme in people's fantasies, doesn't mean they have or do actually want to sleep with someone they're related to, just a fantasy based in something taboo.

37 of 38 albums deleted were comics/cartoons where no person is depicted. 36 of those 38 either did or could have featured those characters having sex with other characters that are either said to be or assumed to be related to them. Some of them featured characters that wouldn't be of legal age. However, there's a huge difference between characters drawn on paper and persons. Characters don't exist except on paper. Persons are people, they walk around and have real relationships. Something that isn't real can't have an age, especially if not based on an actual person, nor can the relations be valid. Seems to be cut and dry to me. However, I might be alone in my reasoning:

This... woman... seems to think I've done something wrong. She believes it enough to message me despite not being friends and likely never having been friends. I'm not sure exactly when the albums were uploaded or when they were deleted, but I find it interesting that someone that I'm pretty sure would have no reason to send me a message out of the blue as we don't know each other at all under these circumstances unless to tell me that they're responsible for what happened. As you can see, 'she' hasn't responded yet. Hell, she may see this post before she responds as she apparently has spent enough time on my profile to be familiar with my uploads and such that this blog will be noticed. Maybe is responsible for nearly 40 albums being removed of mine, maybe she isn't. I don't know for sure right now and I may never know.

What I do know is that a couple of hours of my time was wasted, as was anyone else's that enjoyed the stories in the comic albums that were removed.

Published by anon8101

11 years ago

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NihilistEnthusiast 11 years ago

to anon8101 : I don't have interest in those kinds of pics either, but it still confuses me when xhamster allows them to stay up when it's in their guidelines to not allow them in the first place.

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anon8101 Publisher 11 years ago

to NihilistEnthusiast : Thank you for your views and any votes/comments! It's always good to hear from someone that enjoys my effort, especially after the ~100 album deletion by XH! Heh. I agree with you, I don't believe I've broken the guidelines in the deleted albums. Such a shame that all that time and effort was completely undone. Albums from 15 images to 1000+ images in the Girls of 4chan - Bluewut album. One of my favourite albums, that Bluewut one. As far as fake profiles, I don't have much to add on that. It's shitful that fake profiles exist for whatever reason, but having multiple profiles seems like it should be alright under certain circumstances. I might eventually make a second profile for myself. For the family photos, THAT doesn't seem appropriate for a pornsite. Moderation for removal on that is 100% reasonable in my opinion. Although I don't like shit/scat/poop/whatever or blood myself, I don't really have an issue with it enough to care whether it's allowed on here or not. Not my interest, not my thing.

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anon8101 Publisher 11 years ago

to thailock : Of course we can have a discussion, my friend! I understand what you have said so far. If you have doubts about being understood in English, you do use Google translate to assist in English, yes? The assistance provided by Google's translate service may help with your doubts about being understood. Whenever you or anyone else would like to talk about anything, regardless of subject, I'm willing to discuss it! To demonstrate the translation service from Google, I'll translate what I've just typed into Italian for you specifically. Naturalmente possiamo avere una discussione, amico mio! Capisco quello che hai detto finora. Se avete dubbi su farsi capire in inglese, non usare Google translate per aiutare in inglese, sì? L'assistenza fornita dal servizio di traduzione di Google può aiutare con i vostri dubbi circa essere capito. Ogni volta che tu o chiunque altro vorrebbe parlare di qualsiasi cosa, a prescindere dal soggetto, io sono disposto a discuterne! Per dimostrare il servizio di traduzione di Google, io traduco quello che ho appena scritto in italiano per voi in particolare.

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anon8101 Publisher 11 years ago

to PublicEnemyCknz : I can't take credit for this side. I just have an opinion and your opinion is similar to mine. We both have screwy publication/moderation albums. I've got 4-5 that say weird shit like 2 albums are locked (made private) but I didn't lock them, 2 others are in publication which is just after moderation and have been for some time, and I forget what's up with the last one or two albums. Weird shit is all I can say. As far as watermarks go, the deletion/removal of those seems discretionary, that is to say dependent on the individual, rather than on the rules alone. Some are deleted during moderation or publication, but most make it public. Of course, some deletions happen post-publication for some reason. Probably someone reporting the image like StephanMuc, the goddamn ratfink. You do raise an interesting, perhaps very valid point about the flag button being spammed as I became a target because 1-2 people didn't like the theme(s) of the albums. I think if I upload more they'll probably be private albums just for friends. I don't want to do that, but I enjoy this website still and I don't just want to never upload anything again cause it might be deleted.

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fukthaworld88 11 years ago

to PublicEnemyCknz : Ditto

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NihilistEnthusiast 11 years ago

I follow you pretty regularly. I've never seen anything you post that goes against the guidelines set by the website. That being said I've had people pass themselves off as me under fake profiles, reported them, and watch as they were never removed. I've also reported pictures of whole families with babies stolen from facebook and never seen them removed. Same with skat and period pics so I don't get how Xhamster decides what stays and what goes.

thailock 11 years ago

Surely we can open up a discussion interesting and constructive, but my bad English does not allow me to open it now, especially since now I have to do my reviews, but I can return in the next days. Have a nice evening

PublicEnemyCknz 11 years ago

I'm on your side on this one. To start with, we all know that are moderators on this site or anywhere that needs moderation. I too was a moderator before *details at my profile. Let me narrate one of my experience which is relevant to this issue. I have two sets of the same picture which has been on hold til now..for one month. It's labelled as 'waiting for publication'. Just a normal nude hijab girl pictures. I uploaded the first set but they're on hold for days. I then uploaded the same set of pictures for the second time, removing two pictures to see what's the outcome. Well they are still there 'waiting to be published' & i can provide screenshots to prove my story. As i said there are nothing offensive about the pictures. My guess is it might have been the prominent name tag displayed on the girl's blouse. I will try to re-upload without the said picture & see. So back to the topic.. 1. Moderators will go through everything & if they found that anon's pictures were offensive, they will be deleted or have the same fate as mine did. 2. The moderators found nothing wrong with the pictures & that's why they have been approved & published. 3. If anyone should say that maybe the pictures somehow slipped through under their very scrutiny..well bear in mind that the pictures involved are 40 galleries, not just one or two. Conclusion..they deleted anon's gallery not because it's offensive in any kind..but because someone pressed that little 'flag' button not once..but 40 times.

anon8101 Publisher 11 years ago

to Caged4Ever : I understand what you're saying but I don't have the time or patience to try to fully respond or refute 5 different subjects from personal taste to legality to implicit and explicit economics of internet pornsites to justice on this website. Altogether that is simply too much to cover, I'd write paragraph after paragraph detailing my personal views combined with fact and precedence that would support my argument. As I'm short on time and patience for now, I'll do this quick, fast, and in a hurry. 1. For the most part I agree with you about drawing and cartoons. No crimes have been committed except for perhaps copyright material being duplicated for artistic means, but no actual in-cest or under-age persons were involved. Due to the nature of it (words and lines on paper) I believe it falls clearly within my legal defense of the American First Amendment of Free Speech as I'm American. 2. Not public property, but there's an understanding so that the upload pages list a variety of things not allowed and/or il-legal to upload. Having too broad of interpretation in removal means the lines are not well-known and defined. For example, this website is absolutely BRIMMING with copywritten material that the uploaders don't own yet remain publicly viewable. Where's the line drawn there? I came across a video just the other day titled simply "Bonnie Rotten" which depicted an obviously professionally shot video of the pornstar Bonnie Rotten getting reamed. The uploader was not the studio that shot the video. That video has/had thousands of views. Why is it allowed if it's not supposed to be allowed? Why do the upload screens specify 'under-age *PERSONS*' but remove cartoons? Also, it's pretty clear that if under-age persons are not cartoons then any sex in that cartoon can't be seen as in-cest as the characters are not persons. It's logical and reasonable. 3. No one is forcing me to use this website, but this website is the easiest for me to use and has a pretty good community of people. I think that discussion between users should be allowed that involves the practices of this and other websites. Please don't try to come across as trying to shut down discussion as you advocated my/others accepting circumstances or go away. That's unreasonable by definition.

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Caged4Ever 11 years ago

Personally any drawing or cartoon is not going to offend my admittedly rather open minded view. Regarding it's content....no actual people were involved, no consent was needed and no law was broken in my eyes. Perhaps it was repulsive or in bad taste to some but overall...if it's just fictitious depiction, I tend to think YKIOK. However, this website is not public property, nobody has a right to free speech on another persons property if they do not wish it. The owners of XHamster have final say on what is or is not allowed here. It's their time and money being spent so they get to make the rules and they also have to conform to the rules of whatever government their website is hosted by...just like you, they can be shut down and removed if they don't agree to maintain a standard. Accept the owners don't want it, move on to a site that allows it or stay here respecting the rules of the owners. Ultimately the only way you get content control is to run your own site, joining another persons website community is like being invited to their house....they can remove you at any time, they don't need a reason.

PublicEnemyCknz 11 years ago

I did PM you something..a link which i'm not sure is relevant or not as i have not seen the deleted gallery..but is within this subject.

anon8101 Publisher 11 years ago

to thr0bster : For the most part, yes. The only album that never went public was "Acid-Kitty." Not sure why. The rest of the albums removed were almost completely of the comic/cartoon variety and captioned variety. 4 albums didn't make sense for being removed including "Girls of 4chan - Kitty," "Dick-Sucking Lips Volume 4," and "Mixed Big Tits 1," and "Sexy Toons Vol 3."

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anon8101 Publisher 11 years ago

to PublicEnemyCknz : I am interested in what you really think. If you don't want to post here, feel free to PM me. Same goes for everyone else. I do think making the conversation public would be preferable as it shows discussion is being had, but I can understand the desire for privacy.

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anon8101 Publisher 11 years ago

"No content involving u******e persons, a****ls, ****, i****t, v******e, bl**d, shitting, pissing, vomit and other disgusting things. No d***k, d**gged, passed out or sl**ping persons!" This is the relevant information from the gallery/album upload screen when I have uploaded an album. This details mostly things that are i*****l but also covers some things in bad taste like bl**d, shit, and piss. None of my uploads involve any of that from what I know, though there may be a moment or two where when piss happens, perhaps on accident. Of course there's squirting in some of my uploads, which some would argue is piss, but whatever. The stuff that may be relevant to my uploads is the "u******e persons" and "i****t." I've never posted anything that included u******e persons. Persons = people. I've also never posted anything that included i****t. Fake i****t for fantasy, sure. i****t is a common theme in people's fantasies, doesn't mean they have or do actually want to sl**p with someone they're related to, just a fantasy based in something taboo. *"No content involving under-age persons, ani-mals, ra-pe, in-cest, vio-lence, bl-ood, shitting, pissing, vomit and other disgusting things. No dr-unk, dr-ugged, passed out or sle-eping persons!" This is the relevant information from the gallery/album upload screen when I have uploaded an album. This details mostly things that are il-legal but also covers some things in bad taste like blo-od, shit, and piss. None of my uploads involve any of that from what I know, though there may be a moment or two where when piss happens, perhaps on accident. Of course there's squirting in some of my uploads, which some would argue is piss, but whatever. The stuff that may be relevant to my uploads is the "under-age persons" and "in-cest." I've never posted anything that included under-age persons. Persons = people. I've also never posted anything that included in-cest. Fake in-cest for fantasy, sure. In-cest is a common theme in people's fantasies, doesn't mean they have or do actually want to sle-ep with someone they're related to, just a fantasy based in something taboo."*

Hmmm, let me see if the girls of 4chan are still there...

PublicEnemyCknz 11 years ago

Interesting..