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The other side of the Pornindustry

“In 2003 the Free Speech Coalition went to the Ashcroft Supreme Court and basically said that the 1997 c***d Pornography Protection Act was too broad. What did that act say? That act said that A) Nobody under eighteen could be in porn and B) Nobody who looked under eighteen.The Free Speech Coalition, the lobbying body of the porn industry, said that that [protection act] limited the free speech of the pornographers and they should be allowed to have women who look under eighteen. The Ashcroft Supreme Court agreed…”

Dr. Gail Dines addressing porn culture and **** culture’s intersecting roles in patriarchy


















https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z5iANEfQUU
Published by Jana-chen
8 years ago
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blackspear91
blackspear91 2 years ago
to tomcat59 : Thank you for sharing. Some of the most beautiful women were the lesser known ones of the late 70s and early 80s. I wish I knew who she was as I'm sure I have seen her but I understand she may want to slip away quietly in the mists of time. Some of the features and loops might have been gritty but others were lush and colorful. Either way please thank her for me.
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tomcat59
tomcat59 7 years ago
to continue....there are times now she wishes she had stayed in the business longer and been a star performer.   However things were much different then....this is before VCR so movies were seen in actual movie "art" theatres or on an 8 or 16mm film in a private setting.  I think the business was in it's infancy compared to the flood of porn available today...   Maybe people were just a bit nicer 40 + years ago????
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tomcat59
tomcat59 7 years ago
I have come late to this conversation, so perhaps no none will see my words; however....to add my 2 cents worth may be of interest.  I am very close for the last 21 yrs with a woman who performed as porn actress in the late 70's and 80's with east coast companies.  She was never a headliner because she did not want to be identified back in her home state by her parents or etc....I have seen a few movies here on xHamster where she has performed small parts..... Anyway, her experiences as told to me where very much positive and, she says, fun. She made a lot of money at the time and ws  very happy in NYC. A small town girl from midwest, I suppose she was dazzled with the whole NYC scene and the attention she recieved.  
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Kazu88
Kazu88 8 years ago
I am a strong supporter of women protection in the industry, I recognize that it is entertainment but not at the physically demeaning practice without controls for the industry as well as having a balance for consumer of porn. I am for independent agencies monitoring licenses and creating controls for contents
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
That is what hit the core in the center.... i think, for me... that i feel, we comes blunt and dull.... always to be busy and surround... with the things we can see on all corner here.... and the gap between reality and illusion... comes bigger and bigger....
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nakmuay1337
nakmuay1337 8 years ago
to Jana-chen : You're right, and it's good to see you are open to multiple views. I would advise you to look for some more objective sources than this woman though. A lot of her claims fall aparts under any serious scrutiny. If she was really worried about the fates of these women, I think she should do something about it instead of just doing speeches for sycophantic adiences. The could set up a 'pornstar union'. And while she's at it, try to get the male pornstars to get the same payment as the women ;) I think that deep down, she isn't trying to fix the problems in porn, but is angry at porn for some reason. She can't admit it, so she is cherrypicking for things to highlight. The same mentality can be found in many subjects, not just sex. People with personal issues that find something to outrage about, as a distraction so they don't have to face their own demons. But a lot of good research has been done on this subject, which you can find by googling it. If you're willing to read science papers that is ;) There usually is not one right answer in psychology, because a lot depends on people. And people can be very different.
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Chloyd
Chloyd 8 years ago
to Jana-chen : So wonderful indeed Jana...we have the best of a sympatico thing...:))))
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to Chloyd : When you are a Happy guy Sam.... then i`m a Happy girl.... what a wonderful synergy again.... :))))
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Chloyd
Chloyd 8 years ago
to Jana-chen : I'm a happy guy Jana!...The diversity in what provide...And diversity of Friends like YOU...are my delight...Filled with JOY...and *SmiLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS*....You bring *bliss*, and a visual kiss with your fabulous galleries....:))))) Muahwwwwwwwww
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to Chloyd : *Sensory Overload*..?.... Sam.... what a pretty good thing it is.... You know what i mean.... *GiggLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS*... :)))))) and you prove it everyday the new.... :))))) Muahwwwwwwww
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to GODDESS-LANA : *Outchie*.... and your Smile is reward enough for me... :)))
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GODDESS-LANA
GODDESS-LANA 8 years ago
to Jana-chen : Big Smile & Squeeze!!!
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Chloyd
Chloyd 8 years ago
to Jana-chen : LOOOOL....Sensory Overload ! ! !...I've achieved it for my dearest Jana....Well YOU know ME, and WE like so much of the same things...Obviously this will not always be quite and an exact thing...A surprising thing...You're a Lady...And I'm a Gent...WOW....Who knew?...I'm sending great clouds of good wishes to you for your new week...Be JOY filled and with lots of *GiggLESSSSSS*..... Always...YOUR...Sam..:)) HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGS....
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to Leaflee : Thank you LESlee... for your pretty attention... :))
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to nakmuay1337 : The fact that you keep busy, with this theme, shows me... i was right to post this blog here, I`m not here only for show and share... the beautiful things... i`m here for show and share controversy things too, they are worth to consider and to discuss. I don`t run thru my life with closed eyes, without to look left and right, and take all things as they seems to be. More it interest me, to look behind the curtains. In all is to find more than only one truth. For me it`s important, not to see all in a criticless way and to accept all with no questions. Certainly not always comfortable for anyone. Happy Sunday for you too... best regards, Jana :))
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to Chloyd : Look Sam... basically, it is very simple, show me your content... and i tell you who you are.... :)))) The fact that your content is majority or exclusive... show women with women... (honestly i can`t say it... that`s 100% w/w.... content, it`s difficult to crawl all your content and viduploads because theres soooo much, but i will have a next on the *ToDo list for my PA) says more than 1000 words.... Blink.... Blink..... Have a Happy SUNday.... as always, Your Jana :)) HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGS......
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to GODDESS-LANA : Thank you MY GODDESS... that means much for me, because you are the only one from all of us here... is experienced in both sides.... and not only as consumer, so you will know from what talking about....
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nakmuay1337
nakmuay1337 8 years ago
to Leaflee : I actually had a relationship with one (she started the work after I met her, I did not object). She liked it. She earned enough money in a summer to pay for 4 years of university. She told me that the other option available to her at the time (fulltime cashier for minimum wage) felt a lot more like exploitation to her. Also, she loved anal, without any ill effects so far. So as you see, context is everything.
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Leaflee
I knew someone who lived with prostitutes. Because these women engaged in anal sex most of the time they were not able to hold in their gas. At the time I thought it was funny. Later I realized how physically demeaning it was for them. Two beautiful women who couldn't keep a fart in. So sad....I won't even go to anything else that might have been issues for them.
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nakmuay1337
nakmuay1337 8 years ago
to Jana-chen : To be honest, i think it depends more on the intelligence of the consumer. An intelligent and mentally healthy person knows the difference between media and real life. I see it like professional sports. Just like sports, there are some risks if you take sex too far. You can get injured, sick, or even die. And yes, some pornstars get std's. I have been watching porn since i was maybe 13. But it never occurred to me that my gf should do full anal if she doesn't want it. Just like i don't expect her to have the skills of an olympic gymnast, or climb a cliff. But it can also be an inspiration. A way to find new fun things. They most important part is balance (just like with everything in life). Find your own limits and wishes, and use your brain.
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nakmuay1337
nakmuay1337 8 years ago
to jonboi18 : A lot of things this woman wrote is laughable.
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nakmuay1337
nakmuay1337 8 years ago
to Jana-chen : Where did you find this percentage?
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Chloyd
Chloyd 8 years ago
to Jana-chen : So much of what you cite is from the vulgar view of Porn and some of it's viewers...And some of it's purveyors. As to women not liking what they're doing there are plenty of example of those who do, Allie Haze, Celeste Star, Tanya Tate, Julia Ann, and many others, who either are involved in just Lesbian or those who do both Hetero and Lesbian genres say they're proud of their work and are very happy with themselves. We've previously discussed the inane idea of pubescent presentations in both still and film products...I frankly find it abhorrent. Porn is an Adult medium and should never be allowed to venture towards extreme youths or either sex.
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GODDESS-LANA
GODDESS-LANA 8 years ago
Very good post.... ***CORRECTION**** AN EXCELLENT POST.
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jonboi18
jonboi18 8 years ago
what about Nina Hartley shes been in porn for 40 years? Phoenix marie shes been in porn for about 10 years Veronica Avluv she does some really extreme stuff and shes still going so the idea of three month self life is laughable
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nakmuay1337
nakmuay1337 8 years ago
i have been looking into the movement this woman is a part of, and while she may have a point here and there...i think she's not really approaching this in a way that would fit an academic. Some of the stuff she wrote is pretty much laughable even. Very biased. Which is a shame, because there may be a kernel of truth to it, that now gets lost between the nonsensical outrage she's spewing. I mean come on, this woman argued that people that engage in bdsm are just as criminal as the people in the abu graib prison.
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to Chloyd : I agree in parts with you Sam... but not in all..... to say... * the Porn Industry is still one the best self-managed and monitored businesses in the World in spite of what it's many critics may say.* Then you forget... the sight from womens, who act in this industry... only a little percentage of womens, especially in the *straight* sector.... really like what they have to do..... That is like to answers the question.... what was the first... existent... the egg or the chicken.... Many fantasies... especially with teen males.... are first wake up with the crap we can see on every edge... and then they goes to her GF`s.... and want to act like males show her fantasies in straight pornos..... I see a report in TV... pity, that i can`t remembers me the title..... they were reported.... generally Teens on the street.... AND Pornstars...... I see female Pornstars... they said, when you had done the first time... things like is to see... for example in *Gonzo*.... *Bangbros*..... you will be never the same like before..... and that with tears in the eyes.... and famous Pornstars.... but not enough... they says... if any males is in the meaning... and mood to do the same with his GF or wife in real.... he need to visit a Docotor..... and psychologist... because they are sick..... Gf from teens boyfriend... says... to do practice like *anal*.... *blowjobs*.... ect ect ect... they only do for they are afraid to lost her friend, when she isn`t willigly... and look like she is too prude.... That is very interesting.... because the teen males.. says... this fantasies, they have from watching Porn.... and only they want to be like acting Pornstars.... they are in the wrong meaning of... females... could like it... but that is completly contrare how we all know.... It is not in the female nature... to like it... have a penis in her anus.... or mouth... sperm in her anus of face, throat.... The real women who like that.... is so small.... a male will have many problems... and need a long time to find.... when the women is honestly... and not only do it in a favour for the male.... So the question is.... what is truth?.... it is... that fantasies... males wears in his inners will be served from Pornos.... or is it in the way of..... fantasies will be create from Pornos?..... I think... that is most depending from the age of the consumer.......
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Jana-chen
Jana-chen Publisher 8 years ago
to lt6949lt : Thanks for your comment...
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Chloyd
Chloyd 8 years ago
The Porn Industry by it's very nature is a cruel one, but it is one driven by fantasy. That fantasy element is brought about by the consumers. Sex by it's nature being given the reputation of being prurient by religious and social ethics critics, creates the Industry of fantasy. Critics of the Porn Industry generally fail to recognize these things. Because of the base nature of how sexual relations are perceived, regulatory elements then must be applied, but there's also the element of Free Speech invoked, (This first came about during the Burlesque of exotic dancing became more explicit.), also a Supreme Court decision. The injection of underage performers is the basest form of Human nature, (Or Inhuman more appropriately). It's fortunately been kept at a minimum and is really only a factor in Dark Web outlets, and Asian markets. The issue of prolapse videos is basicly specious nowadays, because most videos of this nature are Lesbian themed, with less opportunity for infections, other than those caused by poor hygienic standards and practices. For all of it's poor reputation, the Porn Industry is still one the best self-managed and monitored businesses in the World in spite of what it's many critics may say.
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lt6949lt
lt6949lt 8 years ago
Wow !!
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